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For more reviews, visit www.umakemehungry.comHas this Michelin Star Dim Sum lost its Novelty here in Singapore?I still remember the time when its first launch in Plaza Singapura with a exaggerating long queues where people were willing to wait up to hours just to dine in there and I was also one of them. With about 5 outlets here in Singapore now, the wait is finally reduced. There are no longer sights of snaky queues and staff are well trained to handle crowds at least better for now.Having bee
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I still remember the time when its first launch in Plaza Singapura with a exaggerating long queues where people were willing to wait up to hours just to dine in there and I was also one of them. With about 5 outlets here in Singapore now, the wait is finally reduced. There are no longer sights of snaky queues and staff are well trained to handle crowds at least better for now.

Having been to Westgate for countless times, frankly, Tim Ho Wan is the last restaurant I ever want to visit. Firstly I have tasted their Dim Sum and secondly to avoid the queues.

Good thing is that they will only assign a table to patrons who are present at the scene. No reservation and waiting on the table is allowed. However there is seats provided in the queue for those who are waiting for the rest to come.

Two small bowls were given to divide the portion between us. Congee was rather smooth with two kinds of eggs and pork was chopped into smaller portions.
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When it comes to the Dim Sum cart, being the staples of such delicacies Siew Mai & Har Kau are always the top ordered item. I wouldn't say they are of my favourite here in Tim Ho Wan but shrimps that were elegantly wrapped under this thin layer of translucent skin were springy and tasted something run-out-of-the-mill.
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Siew Mai was rather standard fare too with one wolf berry that gave a final finish to the pork dumplings. Meat was neither greasy nor fatty, decent enough.
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Out of the dishes ordered, this is what I like best. Mushroom was quite big with yummy soft glutinous rice. Chicken was tender and sausage was fragrant.
Rice with Chicken, Sausage & Mushroom
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Rice with Chicken, Sausage & Mushroom
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One of the Big 4 Heavenly Kings of Tim Ho Wan, come 3 in a dish, this flaky crust outer layer was talk of the crowd previously due to its limited production each day. During then, one patron was also given a limitation to the number purchased.
Baked Bun with BBQ Por
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However, it had soon lost its charms when I took a bite at them. They no longer carries the kind of buttery fragrance but its sweetness still remain.
BBQ Pork Bun
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Standards of Radish Cake used to be tip top but apparently, they were of standard fare right now. Cake was still as soft and gentle on the bites but the taste and level of excitement was no longer as good as before. Where did the good day goes? Can they still live up to its name among the Heavenly 4?
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Service was abrupt and when ever the servers place the trays of Dim Sum, we did not really feel comfortable. Instead of placing them on the table, the tray was "drop" with a tad sound. Perhaps it was too hot for them to handle or there were very many trays to be handled in a narrow area. But being so, this is not the kind of service we are expecting.
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2014-12-23 267 views
A friend cooked an excellent lunch today for 6pax on 19.12.2014.after that 4 of us went to JEM (jurong east mall) to watch “exodus”. carpark was full so we parked at westgate mall which was linked to JEM at level 2.after the movie we walked back to westgate mall & had a light dinner at timhowan 添好运 (still full from the excellent lunch). We dutifully ordered the crispy char siew pao.i must have had one too many of this. had much better crispy char siew pao at canton paradise several times. didn’t
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A friend cooked an excellent lunch today for 6pax on 19.12.2014.
after that 4 of us went to JEM (jurong east mall) to watch “exodus”. carpark was full so we parked at westgate mall which was linked to JEM at level 2.
after the movie we walked back to westgate mall & had a light dinner at timhowan 添好运 (still full from the excellent lunch). We dutifully ordered the crispy char siew pao.

i must have had one too many of this. had much better crispy char siew pao at canton paradise several times. didn’t like it as much it now. Har gao was good but for me canton paradise’s har gao & imperial treasure teochew’s har gao were better. 马拉糕 was never my thing, even at hong kong timhowan outlet – an enigma to me. tasted like “wa kor kuay”.

teochew dumpling 潮州粉粿 was competent. fu pei quin 腐皮卷 & fried carrot cake were ok. anyhow overall the food was really mediocre, which to me meant a disappointment. dinner was just S$39 but we had very little food for 4pax.
for me, there is no reason to have these average food when i can get better food at canton paradise, imperial treasure & crystal jade for largely the same price.

See my full reviews & photos at = http://chefquak.com/2014/12/23/average-too-ordinary-dimsum-timhowan-添好运-at-westgate-mall-on-19dec2014/
teochew dumplings, hargao & 马拉糕
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2014-06-17 227 views
Of all the dishes only beancurd skin rolll with pork and shrimp impressed me $4. it came hot which is what i like. the char siew bao is like polo bun with char siew and its rather small with normal looking filling or more like a paste type. the braised chicken feet is more like our 卤鸭style. ok carrot cake was decent but I've had better before. ccf was plain with only shrimp, siew mai and har gao was normal but came in 4s instead of 3. poached lettuce was very plain and small in quantity. the osm
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Of all the dishes only beancurd skin rolll with pork and shrimp impressed me $4. it came hot which is what i like. the char siew bao is like polo bun with char siew and its rather small with normal looking filling or more like a paste type. the braised chicken feet is more like our 卤鸭style. ok carrot cake was decent but I've had better before. ccf was plain with only shrimp, siew mai and har gao was normal but came in 4s instead of 3. poached lettuce was very plain and small in quantity. the osmanthus cake is small but tastewise acceptable
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2014-03-20 235 views
Queued the longest for any food in Singapore. Really underestimated we singaporeans tolerance for queuing for good food!! Was ushered seats promptly by friendly staffs.FOOD TIMEEEE Yummy Century Egg congee! Really enjoyed the smoothness of the congee and the tiny bits of century egg and minced pork. It's served bland so you may want to add a dash of soy sauce and pepper if you prefer * Its quite filling so be careful!Spring rolls!! These are served fresh amd SCALDING HOT. Burnt my tongue eating
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Queued the longest for any food in Singapore. Really underestimated we singaporeans tolerance for queuing for good food!!


Was ushered seats promptly by friendly staffs.

FOOD TIMEEEE


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Yummy Century Egg congee! Really enjoyed the smoothness of the congee and the tiny bits of century egg and minced pork. It's served bland so you may want to add a dash of soy sauce and pepper if you prefer

* Its quite filling so be careful!


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Spring rolls!! These are served fresh amd SCALDING HOT. Burnt my tongue eating this. I would say the rolls are quite ordinary and do not excite my tastebuds. But real cripsy though.


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I do not fancy this. Here's why.

1) Its too filling!
2) Not flavoured enough. Too bland
3) Sliced shiitake mushrooms not fragnant.
4) Rice have that bitter lotus leaf smell and taste.

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THE CHILLI SAUCE HERE IS GREAT! Somewhat tangy and sweet, its has peanuts to heighten the fragrance of the sauce, with a little kick of hotness. Best dipped with spring rolls and the glutinous rice thingy.
Tim Ho Wan PLEASE SELL YOUR CHILLI SAUCE


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Ahh, one of the 4 heavenly kings here. This tasted really good as you got the sweet flakey skin on the outside and juicy char siew bits inside. They complement really nicely!


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I liked how these siew mais still maintain its moisture when you bite into them. Using fresh wolfberries and mushrooms you can really taste the difference between these and conventional Hawker Siew Mais.


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Very chewy and fresh! I like! Skin is quite thin so to enjoy the chewyness of the juicy shrimp instead of a lump of flour. These looked really delicate!


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It's appreciated that the staff poured the special sweet and salty sauce only when the chee cheong fun is served on the table. Its prevents it from turning too soggy. Char siew is nicely done while maintaining its sweetness. A bit touch to bite though. Cheong Fan is soft and breaks easily - like melts in yo mouth!

SIDENOTE: Really didnt enjoy the ambience of this place. Too noisy and too hot! Was sweating thoughout my meal. (Had to have a glass of PAID cold refillable water) I think that their intention is to stimulate the actual dining experience in a typical dim sum restaurant back in hong kong with the style of having afternoon tea while talking loudly. Creating a lively environment. But I think it's too real of a stimulation for me!

Anywayz a great place for lunch or dinner if you dont mind the heat generated by people and their voices!
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2014-02-27 162 views
Having tried the TimHoWan's original branch in HongKong, I left the place then feelin disappointed and utterly bewildered how it would justify so much raved reviews about it. Well to sound not so critical, the only thing I do applaud would be the BBQ buns.Back in SG, the hype continues and now there are already four branches if I am not mistaken. Finally I decided to give the signature BBQ Char Siew baked buns ($4.50 for 3pcs) a try.I bought them as take away but ate them immediately after that
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Having tried the TimHoWan's original branch in HongKong, I left the place then feelin disappointed and utterly bewildered how it would justify so much raved reviews about it. Well to sound not so critical, the only thing I do applaud would be the BBQ buns.

Back in SG, the hype continues and now there are already four branches if I am not mistaken. Finally I decided to give the signature BBQ Char Siew baked buns ($4.50 for 3pcs) a try.
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I bought them as take away but ate them immediately after that when it was still piping hot. The baked crust was crispy and with my first munch, it was delighting to feel its contents oozing out. However, my delight was short lived. The whole bun tasted way too sweet. For myself personally I think it should be savory with perhaps just mild sweetness. Yet it was still commendable to see visible chunks of Char Siew in the juicy filling. But the sweetness was too much for my liking.

Generally i don't see the hype over this DimSum restaurant. But surely with its decent food quality, strategic location and accessibility, it is still an option to consider for a DimSum meal.

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1) Beef ball $4.20 - decided to try this as i had tried almost every item on the menu already. the beef ball had a weird taste and there was no beef taste at all which was weird as beef usually has a heavy flavour. The texture was also very soft. I'm never ordering this again! 2) spinach dumpling $3.80 - the crystal skin was a tad dry but the moist spinach made up for it. It was a novelty to eat dumpling with spinach and prawn in it but there was nothing special in its taste. 3) Yam dumpling $5.
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1) Beef ball $4.20 - decided to try this as i had tried almost every item on the menu already. the beef ball had a weird taste and there was no beef taste at all which was weird as beef usually has a heavy flavour. The texture was also very soft. I'm never ordering this again!
2) spinach dumpling $3.80 - the crystal skin was a tad dry but the moist spinach made up for it. It was a novelty to eat dumpling with spinach and prawn in it but there was nothing special in its taste.
3) Yam dumpling $5.00 - the crust was crispy and the yam was soft and not dry. It is special to add chilli crab to suit local tastebuds but it is not a die die must try item.
4) Jade wanton with laksa soup $5 - although i have tasted better laksa broths, this was to my liking (partly because i love laksa) as the jade wanton had also absorbed some of the laksa soup and the combination was yummy.

I went today at about 11.15am and there was no queue so i got a table immediately.
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This was my second time at tim ho wan. It serves affordable dim sum and the specialities are the BBq Pork Bun, steamed malay cake, vermicili roll with pig liver. As i went there early (around 6pm), there was not really any queue, hence i waited less than 5 minutes for a table for two I ordered the bbq pork bun for $4.50. The bun is really crispy and have a 'bolo' skin. I extremely love the crispy crust! The inside has the bbq pork filling which i find it quite sweet, but overall, its still the b
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This was my second time at tim ho wan. It serves affordable dim sum and the specialities are the BBq Pork Bun, steamed malay cake, vermicili roll with pig liver.
As i went there early (around 6pm), there was not really any queue, hence i waited less than 5 minutes for a table for two
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I ordered the bbq pork bun for $4.50. The bun is really crispy and have a 'bolo' skin. I extremely love the crispy crust! The inside has the bbq pork filling which i find it quite sweet, but overall, its still the best bbq pork bun!
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This is the vermicili roll with shrimp @ $5.50. This roll is smooth and soft with fresh prawns and some vegetables.
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Rice with beef and fried egg @ $6. The beef was quite disappointing as i couldnt really taste the beef meat. However, when eaten together with the rice, egg and beef, it tasted not bad.
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Steamed malay cake @ $3.80. This cake is really soft and fluffy with a slight sweetness in it. However, it was quite dry at the inside ccompared to the one i tried before at plaza sing :/

Overall, if you were to dine at Tim Ho Wan, be sure to order the BBq Pork buns and Steamed malay cake!


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2014-01-26 36 views
For full review, please visit http://gingybite.blogspot.sg/2014/01/tim-ho-wan.htmlNever a time I passed by Tim Ho Wan without seeing any queue (except when they were still close). Considering this is an outlet of the cheapest Michelin-starred restaurant (only the original outlet in Mongkok and Sham Shui Po are the ones with Michelin stars), perhaps seeing the notorious queue is not surprising at all. The first Tim Ho Wan was opened in 2009, by Chef Mak Kwai Pui, and the restaurant was awarded Mi
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Never a time I passed by Tim Ho Wan without seeing any queue (except when they were still close). Considering this is an outlet of the cheapest Michelin-starred restaurant (only the original outlet in Mongkok and Sham Shui Po are the ones with Michelin stars), perhaps seeing the notorious queue is not surprising at all. The first Tim Ho Wan was opened in 2009, by Chef Mak Kwai Pui, and the restaurant was awarded Michelin star in 2010. Although many of our friends told us that the dim sum sold in Singapore outlet do not taste as good as those sold in Hong Kong outlet, not all of us has the luxury to hop on and aeroplane to Hong Kong for the original version!
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Browsing through the menu, we saw that the 3 monthly specials were new, so we ordered them all. Seems like to cater to the local taste buds, they concocted this spicy dish - jade wonton in laksa soup ($5). I was expecting the usual Singapore laksa taste but surprisingly, I found it a fusion of Singapore laksa and Penang laksa. The laksa was not overly spicy, there were tau pok added too!
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The second monthly specials was also a spicy dish - yam dumpling with chilli crab meat ($5). Despite being deep fried, the net-like skin doesn't feel very oily.
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The chilli crab filling was not very spicy, more of a sweet version of chilli crab. It still taste good nonetheless.
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We were hesitating at first whether to order this braised chicken feet with abalone sauce ($5) as we prefer chicken feet to be cooked in spicy sauce. We were glad we did, the sauce of the chicken feet was sweet, savoury and simply delicious. The chicken feet was not the 'puff up' version as it was not being deep fried, it was firm, smooth, chewy, and full of collagen which is good for your skin!
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This baked bun with BBQ pork ($4.5) was one of the big 4 heavenly kings. The brittle-like sugary casing readily crumbled upon each bite. However, the BBQ pork was seasoned way too sweet, masking the original roasted char siew flavor. Perhaps it will suit you if you have a sweet tooth.
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The steamed egg cake ($3.8) was also one of the big 4 heavenly kings. I wasn't fond of steamed egg cake before but now I am starting to look for the recipe! The surface of the cake was smooth with slight shine, beneath it was the spongy cake packed with mouth-lingering rich sweet aroma from the brown sugar. It was fluffy and moist, simply hit the spot!
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Vermicelli roll with pig's liver ($5.5), one of the big 4 heavenly kings too. Too bad none of us were fans of pigs liver. The liver was cooked just right, not dried up but still tender.
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Ends up, we preferred this vermicelli roll with shrimp ($5.5) than the one with pigs liver. The vermicelli roll was well made, it was thin, smooth and slippery.
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Steamed or fried? We chose the steamed version. Biting into the chewy beancurd skin was the juicy and flavorful fillings of mince pork and shrimp ($4). The beancurd skin was well soaked-up in the gravy and absorbed all the goodness from the sauce.
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The dumpling Teochew style ($4) have nice semi-transparent chewy skin, you can more or less see through the skin to get a hint of the ingredients inside. The skin was well-made, and most importantly, it doesn't stick to the teeth. There was a good balance of the amount of meat and vegetables. I thought there should be some peanuts but I don't remember biting into any.
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We ordered congee with lean pork, century egg and salted egg ($4.2), to fill out whichever stomachs that still shouting for more food! The congee was smooth, and the pork was cooked just right, neither too stiff to the bite nor dried up, every spoonful easily slided down the throat. A simple yet well executed dish!
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The restaurant does not accept reservation, so be prepared to queue for hours. However, I find it quite a pleasant wait as they prepared chairs for those in the queue to rest their feet. I saw people chatting, on the phone, browsing net etc, it was not such a horrendous wait at all. It is worthwhile to mention too that the service staff, despite the overwhelming crowd, was extremely pleasant and attentive. It was indeed a satisfying dining experience there.
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2013-12-30 38 views
pork congee $4.20The congee was flavourful and the different types of eggs in it made the taste great. The texture was also smooth.shrimp vermiroll $5.50 was a little disappointing as they were cold and tasted average.monthly special jade wonton laksa soup $5 was good! The soup was appropriately spicy and the chives wontons were one of the best that I had tasted.The bowls they gave were a little dirty. Waiting time was around 45 minutes. I'll definitely be back for more
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pork congee $4.20
The congee was flavourful and the different types of eggs in it made the taste great. The texture was also smooth.
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shrimp vermiroll $5.50 was a little disappointing as they were cold and tasted average.
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monthly special jade wonton laksa soup $5 was good! The soup was appropriately spicy and the chives wontons were one of the best that I had tasted.

The bowls they gave were a little dirty. Waiting time was around 45 minutes. I'll definitely be back for more
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Four months ago where I had made my first visit to Tim Ho Wan at Plaza Singapura outlet, the Toa Payoh outlet at ERA centre was just about to be opened. Now, Tim Ho Wan has four outlets in Singapore with one of the latest situated at Westgate.One would not have been to Tim Ho Wan if they had not tried their Baked Bun with BBQ Pork ($4.50). While it was on par with the ones served at Plaza Singapura taste-wise, we were slightly disappointed with the amount of filling inside. There was less BBQ Po
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Four months ago where I had made my first visit to Tim Ho Wan at Plaza Singapura outlet, the Toa Payoh outlet at ERA centre was just about to be opened. Now, Tim Ho Wan has four outlets in Singapore with one of the latest situated at Westgate.
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One would not have been to Tim Ho Wan if they had not tried their Baked Bun with BBQ Pork ($4.50). While it was on par with the ones served at Plaza Singapura taste-wise, we were slightly disappointed with the amount of filling inside. There was less BBQ Pork packed in it, making the inside feel rather airy.
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Steamed Egg Cake ($3.80) was one of my favourites during the past visit with its fluffiness and flavour. The one at Westgate lacked to satisfy me from previous expectations by substituting the perfect fluffiness with a bit of stickiness, let down with a lighter flavour. The colour of the cake at Westgate was also lighter than the one at Plaza Singapura, which probably could be the reason behind the discrepancy in flavour. I am not certain but it also seemed to have shrunk in size somehow?
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During the previous visit at Plaza Singapura we found the Prawn Dumpling ($5.50) a rather nice dish but lacking the cut that differentiates it from other dim sum places. We thought the Westgate outlet executed the dish way better; the prawns were not only fresh, they were more tender and chewier. The skin was also more bouncier which makes it a joy in the mouth. Would have ordered a second serving if we had the space to.
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Pork Dumpling with Shrimp ($5.00) was rather similar by being great but having no differentiating factor. Again we thought the Westgate outlet fared better. It felt less stiff and more tender due to having less pork to prawn.
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One of the new dishes we had not have the chance to try was the Wasabi Salad Prawn Dumpling ($5.00). As a fried dish, it fared well with its crispy batter, with the freshness and tenderness of the prawns being a plus. The addition of roe on the dumplings also adds a dimension of texture by creating a chew. The Wasabi Mayo however came in miserable amounts that was hard to taste. Personally we also felt that they should have put a higher ratio of wasabi to mayonnaise to increase the intensity of the wasabi.
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We missed the Tonic Medlar & Osmanthus Cake ($3.50) the previous time so we made it a point to order it at Westgate. It was definitely cooling and soothing, carrying a light refreshing flavour. Definitely a good way to end off the meal especially after a few servings of fried items.

We left the Westgate outlet slightly confused; we were quite glad that most of the items were better than the Plaza Singapura outlet, but it is the Four Heavenly Kings that did not seem to deliver the high standards that were set in the early days. Overall though we were still rather satisfied with the food, and looking forward to the next visit regardless of which outlet it would be.

For more photos and the full review, please visit: http://jiaksimipng.wordpress.com/2013/12/22/tim-ho-wan-%E6%B7%BB%E5%A5%BD%E8%BF%90-westgate/
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2013-12-15 29 views
After eating my lunch at Sushi Express, I shopped around Westgate and realised Tim Ho Wan had opened! Hence, I decided to join the the queue to try some famous dimsum.The queue was not as long as the other branch at Plaza Singapura, I only need to queue about thirty minutes. Since my stomach was already almost full, I ordered a few dimsum items to try, such as Beef ball with beancurd skin, Spinach dumpling with shrimp and Glutinous rice in lotus leaf. The prices were not cheap, the Glutinous ric
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After eating my lunch at Sushi Express, I shopped around Westgate and realised Tim Ho Wan had opened! Hence, I decided to join the the queue to try some famous dimsum.

The queue was not as long as the other branch at Plaza Singapura, I only need to queue about thirty minutes.

Since my stomach was already almost full, I ordered a few dimsum items to try, such as Beef ball with beancurd skin, Spinach dumpling with shrimp and Glutinous rice in lotus leaf. The prices were not cheap, the Glutinous rice in lotus leaf alone cost $5 and others at about $4 each.

The three dimsums that I ordered tasted average, maybe the staffs was rushing to make and cook the dimsum for the large crowds during the first opening day.

The Beef ball with beancurd skin was well minced with slight springy and soft to chew. The beef was slightly fatty and tasted savory with the marinated sauce.

The Spinach dumpling with shrimp had more spinach than shrimps which was opposite with the printed picture in the menu. It tasted slightly bland.

The Glutinous rice in lotus leaf was steaming hot when opening up the lotus leaf. There was some shredded of meat and mushroom inside. The rice was soft and sticky, tasted savory due to the marinated meat and mushroom inside.

Overall, the dimsum was average, the prices was quite high and there is better dimsum in the same shopping mall.

(The above review is the personal opinion of a user which does not represent OpenRice's point of view.)
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